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The New York Football Minute For July 16

16 Jul

Labor Deal Done? Not So Fast Say Players

The euphoria after yesterday’s reports of a possible settlement has been quelled this morning by the news that the players are pulling back on some issues that many thought had been agreed upon.

The league and the players issued this joint message yesterday afternoon:

The discussions this week have been constructive and progress has been made on a wide range of issues. Our legal and financial teams will continue to work through the weekend. We will continue to respect the confidentiality orders of Chief Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan and will therefore refrain from commenting on specific issues or aspects of the negotiations. We will provide additional information as developments in this process continue.

Read between the lines says Ron Borges of the Boston Herald:

Former New York Giants’ general manager George Young used to say there is no such thing as “close’’ in a contract negotiation; there is only signed and not signed. This morning’s negotiating session between NFL owners and players once again proved his point…

What the players are seeking is a reduction in contact drills and full-pad practices, a reduction in off-season workouts and other changes designed to increase player safety and make violations of rules already in place enforceable. The players’ biggest concerns are coaches violating practice and workout rules already in place that are designed to protect player safety.

Could this prolong the settlement? You betcha. Safety is one of the primary issues on the table. Without complete clarity and complicity from the league and the owners, the players have every right to stand their ground…

What’s Happening in NY Football

Giants’ DE Osi Umenyiora has a lot riding on the new CBA. In fact, he has everything riding on the new CBA. From Serena Sanderson at Giants 101:

Umenyiora met with Giants co-owner John Mara and NFLPA* representative DeMaurice Smith when they were on a break during the lockout negotiations. Smith invited Umenyiora to the talks today because he is one of the top 10 plaintiffs in the Brady vs. NFL federal antitrust lawsuit. Apparently, Osi and John Mara had a conversation about the issue at hand today, although no one knows the outcome. Sal Paolantonio was in New York today and witnessed the two conversing, but couldn’t shed much light on what was said. (..more)

Jets’ OC Brian Schottenheimer discusses the team’s 2011 draft class….WATCH

Sanchez, Mangold on “Camp Lockout”…READ

Giants’ rookie Da’Rel Scott Hooks Up with LaDainianREAD

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Editorial: Jets, Giants Spending Summer at Home

10 Jul


Both New York football franchises chose New Jersey for training camp. I guess for them there’s no place like home.
In June the Jets made it known that due to the lockout they would not be holding training camp in Cortland NY. Deciding instead to stay closer to their facilities in New Jersey.
This week, the Giants followed suit by selecting to not travel to Albany for their summer training camp. In a time of labor uncertainty, where no one knows the exact terms of the new CBA, choices such as these lead many to believe that the moves were not made solely for convenience.

The fact that more teams are cutting back on travel could mean that the players have leveraged more in this CBA than people believed originally possible. It is said that the owners have given the players most of the immediate 1 billion dollar profit in exchange for a long-term percentage reduction. This may be the reason why for this year only we may see little cuts in spending. (I.e. relocating closer to their home facilities.)
If the owners can cut a few corners financially the sting of giving up the immediate 1 billion dollars will be lessened. The owners in turn can manipulate the deal to equal what they would have received if they ‘d split the profit evenly with the players association. Not to say that there is anything wrong with that, but this may be a start to other cut backs this NFL season.
Now the question is where else may the owners choose to be frugal? It is very possible that the owners will be less inclined to dish out major deals in free agency or offer only back heavy contracts. NFL players usually frown upon those deals because contracts are not guaranteed.
Cutting corners could possibly cost teams, such as the Giants and Jets, a prized free agent if a bidding war were to occur. How would Jets fans feel if they could possibly have Nnmadi Asamugha, but ownership felt that saving a few bucks was more important? Would Giants fans feel comfortable once again not landing a big name linebacker?
For all we know not traveling out of New Jersey for training camp is a decision that was reached in the best interest of players and fans. That being said, the NFL is a business first as we have been reminded throughout these labor negotiations. The financial aspect will always weigh heavier than most fans realize.
All fans have anxiously awaited the end of this lockout, but would many of them have preferred a longer wait if they could better their teams in the long run?
Regardless the end is near. But the effects of these negotiations will be felt for seasons to come.
By: Kel Dansby
GiantsFootballBlog.com

Wilner: Time is of the Essence in Lockout Talks

8 Jul

AP Football writer Barry Wilner says time is getting tight for NFL owners and players if they want to start the season on time….

Listen: The FRO Interview: Carl Eller

2 Jul

Thursday night we welcomed the return of former Viking defensive great and President of the retired players association Carl Eller to the show. Carl updated us on the lawsuit and spoke to some other issues facing the game and it’s retired players today.

Please visit his site www.nflretiredplayersassociation.org and vote in the”iPetition” to make your voice heard if you are really a fan of the players who made the game great.

We also thank listener “Elwood” from Indiana who called in, he’s a passionate colts fan and it hurts to hear”if he have a SB” in the same space as”it’s in indy this year”

CLICK TO LISTEN

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NFL Labor: Talks Resume But Little is Resolved

24 Jun

There were more labor talks outside of Boston yesterday, but no progress to to report. Days after their were rumblings of a breakthrough, stagnation has set in and it appears any settlement is still weeks away.

Teams are beginning to alter their training camp plans. A free agency period where teams can sign both veteran and undrafted players has still not been clarified. When the gates do open, many believe a free-for-all will ensue.

The product on the field is sure to suffer now that scores of much-needed mini-camps, rookie camps and OTAs have been missed.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and NFLPA Executive Director DeMaurice Smith made the following statements after yesterday’s meeting:

Commissioner Goodell: “You obviously know we met over the last couple of days. We are under court order as far as what we can discuss so our comments will be brief. But obviously we’re all working hard. The players and owners were here over the last two days. De and I were here for the entire meetings also. And it’s complicated and it’s complex, but we’re working hard and we understand the fans’ frustration. But I think both of us feel strongly that we’re going to continue to work hard at it.”

DeMaurice Smith: “Someone asked me whether I was optimistic. I think we’re both optimistic when we have the right people in the room. We know we’re talking about the right issues and that we’re working hard to get it done. It is extremely complicated, it requires a lot of hard work by a lot of people, but we’re committed to getting something done and we’re going to keep working at it. Just to wrap up: we’re working hard, we understand the fans’ frustration, I know our players’ frustration. We’re going to keep working hard and try to make sure we get a deal done.”

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NFL Labor: Goodell, Owners Confident Season Will Begin on Time

22 Jun

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell addressed the media today following a meeting of NFL owners and club executives at the Westin O’Hare hotel in Chicago, Illinois.

Following is a transcript of the Commissioner’s press conference:

Opening statement:
We just finished a several hour session with our ownership obviously. It was a good session. We had a full discussion. Labor was the only item we discussed today. We went through it in great detail with our ownership so they’re up to speed on the issues and get their input. I must apologize to you in advance that there are several question I will not be able to answer. As you know, we are under orders from the magistrate with respect to our discussions. We’re going to respect that of course and respect the players in the process. I am happy to try to answer any question you have.



On how optimistic you are at this point in the process:
Well I can answer it this way; I think it’s a tremendous positive that the principals are talking. Players and owners are talking to one another and negotiating, and I think that’s a positive step. Hopefully we’ll all be successful in reaching an agreement that’s fair and balanced for everybody.

On there being much discussion in the meeting among the owners:
You’ve never been in an owners meeting before…listen I’ve said it before I think anytime you’re dealing with the NFL and the 32 clubs with 1,800 players, you’re going to have different perspectives and different elements that people might not see eye to eye on. But I think the objective is to get something that works for everybody. It’s not what everybody wants, it’s what everybody needs to reach an agreement that’s fair and balanced and is going to work to make our game better and to continue to grow our game.

On what was discussed in the negotiating sessions:
Well again I’m not going to get into specifics of our negotiating session but obviously we went through everything with our clubs. Training camp, off-season issues – they’re all important issues to both the players and to the clubs, their health and safety remains the number one priority for us. Those things have been discussed and will continue to be discussed.

On having authority from owners to complete a deal:
We’ve done a terrific job – meaning the CEC – which is a representative of 10 clubs and our staff – of keeping our ownership informed. We identified the priorities together, the objectives together and the negotiations have gone in such a ways that they have been fully informed at every step. That’s the way it should go. I believe they’re fully informed and hopefully all of us will continue to work hard and get something to bring back to the ownership and they’ll bring back to their players.

On there being a consensus on what will happen next:
That might be a little deceiving in terms of a consensus because we don’t have an agreement. I think we have a very strong view of the priorities and a very strong view of what we need to continue to accomplish during the negotiations and a determination to get there. The ownership is unified on that basis.

Can you give us an idea if you came into this meeting knowing what it would take from the players to get a deal done?
No, it would not be fair to say that. We’re in the midst of a negotiation.

Do you have any better idea of what will happen with training camp, preseason and then with the Hall of Fame Game?
When I know you’ll know I promise.

Do you think that meeting for about 5 hours and then the fact that owners have been warned that they may have to stay over to the next day that that’s a good sign?
You’re reading far too much into that. The only subject we raised today were the labor issues. We obviously could have raised other issues but we thought it best to keep it completely focused on the labor issues.

Will you be meeting again with the players and the trade association?
Yes.

This week?
I didn’t say that. . .we’ve done a very good job of keeping our meetings focused on issues and not distractions and we’re going to try to continue to try to do it in a confidential and professional way.

What is your level of confidence that you will be able to accomplish an agreement?
We’ve got a lot of work to do and we’ve got to do it right. The agreement that we’re focusing on and negotiating has got to address several issues. Those issues are complex and it needs to be done in a way that is fair to the players, fair to the clubs, and most importantly allows us to continue to have that full 2011 football season. That’s what we want, that’s what the fans want, they want football and it’s our job to try to make that happen.

Do the players share the same commitment to getting an agreement to play a full 2011 season?
Yes, I think they do, yes.

Is there a point that you get to over the course of the next 2 months where there is a breakdown and you say you know what we can’t play a full season if we get to this point. Is that sometimes in late July or mid July if you haven’t gotten a deal?
Is there a drop dead date? There isn’t but obviously, time is moving quickly and we are fast approaching the training camp period. There is an urgency for everybody to get this done.

On reflecting on the process:
I hadn’t had much of a chance to sort of reflect. I’m not sure it’s productive for me to reflect. At this point in time I think we are focused on how we get to an agreement and what we can do to address the remaining issues in a productive way. At some point I’ll have a chance to reflect on different stages of the negotiation. The good news here is that the principles are talking. I think both sides are working to try to reach an agreement.

On process of owners voting:
There’s a lot to be done. Obviously you’d want to have the agreement fully negotiated and reflected in the documents. Secondly, you’d have to go to the various bodies, the players and there is some litigation involved with this also as you know that would have to get resolved also. Those steps would have to take place and would be done on an expedited basis as possible.

On potential framework and if owners have a better understanding of it today:
I think the ownership has a better understanding of the framework and I think we have a better understanding of the various issues and priorities within the membership. Obviously, we are negotiating with the players and the Players Association and that’s what we’ll resume doing.

On meeting with Carl Eller:
We did meet with Carl for about an hour this morning with three owners and a fourth came in later. Carl came in and as you know we’ve had various retired players address the full ownership. We had a good opportunity to speak to Carl today about his priorities and his objective.

On if things are going well and if the meetings were “somber:”
We just got done with 5 hours of owners meeting. It was a good day in the sense that we had a full discussion on the issues and I think our ownership continues to be determined to reach an agreement and play that full season. They are united. They believe that in the best interest of the game we need to correct various aspects of collective bargaining. Everyone’s determined to try to get that done and still have the full 2011 season.

On what he would say to fans who are getting anxious about the start of the season:
There’s no question. I speak to fans all the time and the anxiety level is very high. I think the best thing I can tell them at this stage is we’re working as hard as we possibly can and we’ll go the extra mile to try to reach that agreement. We know how important football is to fans, and we want to deliver on that.

On the federal court issuing a ruling:
We don’t anticipate there will be a federal court oversight.

On why the league called an owners meeting today and whether there was a gap among the owners:
We’re negotiating with the players, not with ourselves.
I don’t think there was a gap in the first place. I think our ownership understood the issues. We were just bringing them up to speed, getting their input, and getting to the point where they’re fully aware of what’s transpired over the last several weeks. That’s our responsibility and ultimately they’ll have to vote on this agreement.

On future meetings between the owners and players:
We would hope to increase the frequency of these. We did not address that today, but yes, we would hope to increase the frequency of those meetings.

transcript courtesy NFLLabor.com

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Report: NFL Owners Fragmenting Behind the Scenes

18 Jun

According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, the owners are not is agreement over a possible deal that could end the lockout.

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NFL Labor: What is This Work Stoppage About Again…?

16 Apr

This is from NFLLockout.com – the NFLPA’s interim website while the lockout is in effect. It is obviously biased with their view of the labor situation.

This lockout is about the owners taking more than just the game away from fans.

  • Taking away football is not only devastating to the loyal and supportive fans of the NFL; it’s also devastating to their local economies.
  • If there is a lockout, an estimated $160 million would be lost in each NFL city.
  • It is estimated that over 115,000 jobs would be effected.


This lockout is about inequitable leverage.

  • If there is not a football season in 2011, the owners’ costs will drastically decrease.
  • The owners have negotiated TV deals that guarantee them revenues even if games are not played in the 2011 season.
  • The guaranteed television revenues that approach $4.5 billion, coupled with the elimination of $4.4 billion in player salaries and benefits during a lockout, could make a 2011 season without games profitable for the owners.
  • They are willing to sacrifice the sport of football in this country in order to have less cost, less work, and more revenue for themselves.

This lockout is about owners wanting more from players without justified reasons or restitution.

  • The owners have not been willing to give proof that they have taken a financial loss, therefore needing more money back from players.
  • NFL owners are adamant in their desire to reduce the share of league revenue set aside for player salaries by roughly 18 percent ($1 billion) beginning next year.
  • NFL owners want to increase the amount of games, therefore increasing each player’s risk of injury, but decreasing salaries.

This lockout is about healthcare

  • Recently, the NFL said it would not continue active player healthcare in a lockout.
  • The average NFL career is only 3.6 years. It takes 3 accredited years to get just 5 years of post career healthcare.
  • The addition of 2 more games would hinder a player’s ability to get post career healthcare.

This lockout is about history

  • Everything the players have today is a result of a past fight for basic rights.
  • You would have to turn back the clock to the early 1980’s, in the days before free agency, to find a season in which the players’ share of football revenue was as low as that being proposed by the NFL owners.
  • Some of the things players have fought for include: clean socks and jocks, free agency, former player benefits etc.
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NFL Labor: Judge Orders Players, Owners Back to the Table

12 Apr

It’s been one month since the NFL owners imposed their will and locked out the players.  Neither side has budged in their stance on what they feel needs to happen to get a new CBA done.

The players believed litigation was the best route to a new deal, but the Judge Susan Nelson didn’t swing at their pitch last Wednesday.  Today, she told both sides they need to go back to the negotiation table and attempt to work things out.

Nelson will still rule on the players’ motion to lift the lockout, but that could take “weeks”.  She wants both sides to continue to talk in the interim, appointing Chief Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan as the new mediator with the first session scheduled Thursday morning in Boylan’s St.Paul office.

Boylan will try to pick up where federal mediator George Cohen left off several weeks ago. The players left the bargaining table after Cohen’s team failed to bring the parties to a consensus during 16 days of negotiations.

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NFL Lockout: In Case You Missed It

10 Apr

We are still in Lockout mode here at PFNYC.  We love to talk about the Jets and Giants and the draft, but its been difficult to do with that 800 lb gorilla sitting in our living room.

Here is some material to update you on where the Lockout stands right now…

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from proplayerinsiders.com……

Judge Susan Nelson said after hearing arguments in the Brady vs. NFL case Wednesday that she was likely to take a couple of weeks before ruling. The players are asking her to grant an injunction that would lift the lockout and allow free agency and off-season workout programs to begin.

The text of the NFLPA’s letter to Judge Nelson is as follows:

“Dear Judge Nelson:


We are writing in response to the Court’s suggestion that the parties engage the services of the federal court in Minnesota in an effort to mediate and settled the current litigation. We take your comments regarding protecting the parties positions to heart. As class counsel on behalf of the Brady class, we think this is an excellent suggestion and are prepared to engage in such mediation without delay.


Our agreement is, of course, contingent on the NFL defendants’ agreement that they will not attempt to use this, our willingness to mediate, against the Brady class in some way, for example by arguing that such mediation efforts constitute ‘collective bargaining’ or otherwise arise out of a ‘labor relationship’.”

from NFL Labor.com…….

“I think it is fair to say that the difference between the parties’ positions is that we believe the mediation should proceed under the auspices of the Federal Mediation & Conciliation Service, and opposing counsel believe that the Court should appoint a different mediator. In either case, the purpose of the mediation would be to negotiate a settlement not only of the issues raised in the complaints, but also the many other issues that must be resolved to permit the upcoming season to be played and for the league to operate effectively.”   – David Boies, NFL legal advisor.

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